Lawsuit settled for $4.5 million - Porsche Carrera GT crash

[Bill]

Do you guys remember reading about the Porsche Carrera GT that crashed on a race track and killed the driver and passenger? The passengers wife filed a law suit and it has been settled: http://www.sportscarmarket.com/content/carrera

Do you think this will change track events?

- Bill

[Justin]

Wow thats crazy.

[Philip]

Bull****. I'm sorry the guys died, but that's an inherent risk when you drive out onto any track. How on Earth is Porsche responsible for that? People like Tracy Rudl are the resaon that car makers are (rightfully) afraid to give us the pure unadulterated driver's cars of yesterday.

[Justin]

Bull****. I'm sorry the guys died, but that's an inherent risk when you drive out onto any track. How on Earth is Porsche responsible for that? People like Tracy Rudl are the resaon that car makers are (rightfully) afraid to give us the pure unadulterated driver's cars of yesterday.

Word :D

[blackstig]

All I know is that while in Japan, I was on the track at the same time with several other vehicles, no helmets were required, seatbelts were suggested . . . .but yes, the fact that Americans are paranoid enough to require helmets in an autocross (even though in 4 years I've only seen ONE incident at an autocross) is a tad silly.

I don't know, bad drivers die . . . good drivers live . . .accidents happen which take out the good drivers. No rules should change on the track, I'm sorry but the rules for running on the tracks are strict enough.

*huffs and puffs violently*

-Stig

[Mitch]

That entire story is tough to dissect. It is sad that Ben and the other guy died. I knew of Ben through Ferraris. There was a Ferrari that entered the track at a much slower speed, and the steward waved him onto the track, the Ferrari go directly in the path of the CGT. The CGT was going fast and swerved to hard to avoid him. The tail of the Porsche must have come out so fast they had no time to even think about correcting the spin. TO ME it was the steward's fault for waving the Ferrari on track without noticing a CGT coming fast.

[Reynard38]

Once again too much $$ and not enough ablility rears it's ugly head. Unfortunately there was enough $$ left to hire a lawyer.

Track days. You pay your $$ and you take your chances!
Al least that's how it should be.

[SWINFORD]

Thats BS its his risk he is taking going out there.

[MachSchnell]

Once again too much $$ and not enough ablility rears it's ugly head. Unfortunately there was enough $$ left to hire a lawyer.

Track days. You pay your $$ and you take your chances!
Al least that's how it should be.

I find myself at odds with your post. I agree with you that there are inherent risks to track activeties, especially in a car with such high capabilities as the CGT. And that the lawsuit was mis-aligned against Porsche when resposibility for the accident is clearly someone else's fault (being the trackworker's fault).

But, to much money not enough skill is a label that doesn't belong here. First, because the capabilities of a car such as the CGT are so high that even the best drivers in the world have difficulty getting 9/10ths from the car. Second, because it was an accident. He was doing his thing when a slower car was allowed on the track in front of him. He tried to avoid the car in his path and lacked the time to react properly. He was simply along for the ride after the first steering input.

[EnderM3]

Total bull****! When you get in a car(driver or passenger) like that which is about to go out on a track you just agreed to the consequences. **** happens get over it and take some responsibility for yourself...damn

Even if it was the ferrari drivers fault, it was a track event...he was doing exactly what he should be and screwed up. If it had been on the streets, hell yeah sue the crap out of him. This was an accident plain and simple, the only paying that should be happening is the insurance covering the loss of the car.

[lnwlf]

Once again too much $$ and not enough ablility rears it's ugly head. Unfortunately there was enough $$ left to hire a lawyer.

Track days. You pay your $$ and you take your chances!
Al least that's how it should be.

you are a serious idiot buddy.. I was a friend of Corey Rudl's, who was a competitive racing driver aside from doing track days in his own car and had won a SCCA GT2 championship in addition to other invitational races. He was naturally gifted behind the wheel and was a outstanding businessman as well.

The differences in skill between some dude wanting to drive his car on a track and someone with considerable racing experience is too vast to even compare. So some guy drives beyond his ability while corey is a passenger and does not have the skill to negotiate a situation you are saying he (driver) is without blame? Had corey been behind the wheel or anyone with racing experience im sure that situation would have come out differently, as in racing you deal with situations such as this often enough to be calm and respond competently.

I would suggest by the nature of your comment you are one of those that endangers us all on teh track, does a few tracks days and learns enough to barely understand the abilities of your car and thinks you have it all figured out. His wife is grieving the loss of her new husband as they were starting their life together and by the mistakes of others that life was ripped away from her.

What imbecile drives at 10/10ths of your ability on a track day anyways?!

[blackstig]

:mf_popcorn:

[Trout]

Total bull****! When you get in a car(driver or passenger) like that which is about to go out on a track you just agreed to the consequences. **** happens get over it and take some responsibility for yourself...damn

Even if it was the ferrari drivers fault, it was a track event...he was doing exactly what he should be and screwed up. If it had been on the streets, hell yeah sue the crap out of him. This was an accident plain and simple, the only paying that should be happening is the insurance covering the loss of the car.

Well said my friend. That woman derves nothing. Everyone wants to blame someone else these days. I bet the guys who died in the CDT would be pissed to know about the lawsuit.

[500ZHP]

That entire story is tough to dissect. It is sad that Ben and the other guy died. I knew of Ben through Ferraris. There was a Ferrari that entered the track at a much slower speed, and the steward waved him onto the track, the Ferrari go directly in the path of the CGT. The CGT was going fast and swerved to hard to avoid him. The tail of the Porsche must have come out so fast they had no time to even think about correcting the spin. TO ME it was the steward's fault for waving the Ferrari on track without noticing a CGT coming fast.

/agree
IF any fault as all it was the steward.

[e30bmw]

I would like to point out that this is a really old thread.

But I think that this is a pointless court case. It was an accident and nothing else. If there is an accident on the street, you don't sue the other person, even when someone unfortunately dies. And it isn't like this person needs money, I mean that car is worth almost as much as my (parents) house.

[blackstig]

I would like to point out that this is a really old thread.

But I think that this is a pointless court case. It was an accident and nothing else. If there is an accident on the street, you don't sue the other person, even when someone unfortunately dies. And it isn't like this person needs money, I mean that car is worth almost as much as my (parents) house.

I'm going to interject here, a lot of lawsuits are from vehicular accidents, and sometimes the person at fault has the nerve to sue the person they hit. They most often (if not always) lose but it's happened. A better analogy would be someone trying to sue the police force, city, county and state in which the accident happened for not making the red light bright enough to be seen from 2.78 miles away.

But like you said . . .this is an old thread that probably has already been settled out.

I wish I still had the power of closure . . . :(

-Stig

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